Cant cope with this much longer

[zoe2006]

I am so fed up with this now. I'm 26 weeks and the sickness started getting worse again acouple of weeks ago. My GP changedd me from Cinnarizine back to Cyclazine to see if that would work but it hasnt. I know its not as bad as the first 16 weeks were..I'm only actually vomitting once a day now, but when I do - OMG! Its like the worlds ending and feels like everything I've eaten all day comes back! It's in the evenings now that I get it really bad and its miserable to try and fall asleep when you feel so sick.
I will have to call my GP again today but I really have no faith in her as she is just stabbing in the dark. What can i do? I'm close to tears again it all just seems so hopeless. I am doing my best to look after my toddler but its wearing me out I just want to rest all day.
I know its terrible but I find myself wishing this baby would come very early - how selfish is that.

Thanks for listening anyway.
Zoe x

[mandy]

Zoe,

I don't know any of your history, but if the cyclizine isn't doing it, then it's onto the next med to try. The second halves of my pregnancies were extremely difficult too, I wasn't as desperately sick as I was upto around 20 weeks, but I felt absolutely awful. I could function but it was a struggle. For me, terrific heartburn set in which meant I couldn't keep food down until I got all the acid up, and then I could eat a bit better. At almost every meal, and always first thing in the morning, well it's just awful to live with, isn't it?

Is acid a problem for you? If so, are you taking medication for it? Maybe taking something in conjunction with an anti sickness med will help? (I am just grasping at straws).

Looking after your toddler causing you to be drained and tired will not be helping at all. Hg gets worse with tiredness. Are you getting any help? Can you call on friends/relatives to watch your child a little so you can switch off for a bit?

I think many of us hoped for early babies. I had a fall at 30 weeks with #2 and starting contracting. I went to hospital and was monitored and the nurse said - we don't want this one here just yet. My heart lurched, I half wanted him out, but obviously I totally wanted him to stay there until it was safe too. I think that is completely normal.

I am so sorry this is so hard. Can we help/ support you in any way?

Mandy x

[zoe2006]

Hi Mandy thanks for your reply.
I do have quite bad acid sometimes but not constantly like the nausea.
Just got off the phone to my GP and basically he said try Cinnarizine again! I'm so p*ssed off...It's just stupid. If Cinnarizine wasnt working a week ago why would he think it will work now? They just dont care unless you are dehydrated so they can pass you to the hospital. I'm not dehydrated cos I cant let myself get that way I have to sip fluids no matter what.
He said its just a matter of getting through the next 3 or 4 months - Well doh! I know that. I give up with GP's they just dont have a clue.
I have no family nearby...My mum stayed here for a couple of months at the worst stage - she's an angel but she's got a bad knee and cant come up. So I'm pretty stuck at the moment.
I just feel like it'sinevitable that without anti-nausea tabs that work I will soon get dehydrated...I cant afford to go into hospital ~I'm getting so worried.
Why dont GP's have a clue what to do? Its so unfair.
Maybe I'll feel better on Cinnarizine again? Who knows unless I try I suppose.

Sorry to sound so negative - its not like me but I've just had enough.|

Thanks again for the reply, it helps just to know someone who's been there is listening.

Zoe x

[mandy]

Zoe,

Have you already had hospital admissions this pregnancy? Are you therefore under a consultant? When I was hospitalised, I then had a number straight to the ep ward - I didn't have to go through my GP anymore. I really do think that seeing a consultant is what you need. I have found that top specialists can be much more aware of hg and will treat it more aggressively. Of course, it's the luck of the draw, as to how good your consultant is.

You can demand an appoinment with a consultant anyway. You still have 14 weeks to go, maybe pursue this route. You shouldn't have to do this, I am so sorry. This is exactly why my family has been limited in size. So frustrating!

Have you been down the stemetil route? Why won't they try you on this? It's the first thing I was offered. Also some people have found phenergen to help, and this can be bought over the counter.


I managed to stay hydrated once the hospital helped me. I never went back. It was very hard work getting those liquids down, but I fill an empty big coke bottle with weak vimto and sipped all day until it was gone. I don't know how I did it, but that kept me out of hospital, and the visual of the bottle emptying helped me achieve that goal.

I am sorry your GP made that absolutely stupid comment. If only they knew.....
You can do this. Every day you are getting there, and you need never go back to this place again. Look how far you have come, and remember how wonderful life will be - that is why you did this.

Last thing, don't ever appoligise for sounding negative! If you had met me during hg you would have seen the most miserable, angry, horrible woman ever! It is completely draining, not just physically, but mentally too.

Much love, Mandy x

[sarahkate]

I'm sorry you're feeling so rough Zoe. It maybe that this is as good as it gets but I wouldn't want to come to that conclusion before trying more meds.

Can you self-present at the hospital, does your hospital have a triage bit attached to the delivery unit? Like you say they won't admit you if you aren't dehydrated but you may see someone there who is a bit more clued up on what other meds you could have. It may be worth staying on either the cinnarizine or cyclizine and adding something to it. Metoclopramide can be useful in people like you who feel that everything is still left in their stomach when they vomit. It speeds up the stomach emptying so you may absorb a bit more. And as such helps with the acid. The other thing commonly prescribed in the UK is prochlorperazine (Stemetil) usually as suppositories. Which helps if you can't get anything to stay down. You can take both of these two together and with the cyclizine if necessary. Could you see a different GP and ask for one of them?

Like Mandy I had a lot of heartburn and my vomiting got loads better once I was on antacids - Gaviscon liquid though horrible did help (is over the counter), many people find ranitidine (Zantac) good - OTC in 75mg, prescribed usually at 150mg upwards.

The only other thing to mention is do you think there is any element of untrested depression in there? It does make HG worse. I was on antidepressants for the duration and would make the same decision again.

I'm sorry it's so tough.

Sarah x

[sarahkate]

Just seen Mandy's second reply, must have posted at the same time!! I agree with the suggestion of getting under a consultants team. Do you have your antenatal appointments at hospital? Definitely ask to see a doctor. There IS more they can do.

Sarah x

[zoe2006]

Hi again,
I am reluctant to take stemetil as I have a history of seizures and the way Stemetil works can bring them on if youre prone to them. So v. limited in what I can take. I cant afford to have a seizure as that really would put me out for days and is obviously v. dangerous for baby aswell as me - So not willing to risk taking them.
I've just had a rant on the phone to my mum and feel better - she advised I do NOTHING but whats essential for looking after Abi (my 2yr old) and I think she's right.
I think I'm going to make an appointment with my GP to get refferred to a consultant.
I havent been admitted as I've only actually got dehydrated once and I managed to treat myself with rehydration powders and lots of sips of lemonade! I was cared for by my mum in the first really bad months and she was as good as any nurse in ensuring I had enough fluids etc. I have been so lucky in that repect.
I just didnt expect to get this bad again at this stage, as that didnt happen with Abi.
I feel a bit more positive now, just the stupid GP before with his blase comments was the final straw.
Anyway I suppose I'd better make that appointment.
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply!
Zoe x

[zoe2006]

Hi Sarah,
Thanks for your reply. I have just made an appointment with my GP (not the clown I spoke to today, but only marginally better). I will def mention the Metoclopramide as that sounds like it may be useful for me. I take gaviscon when the acid is bad - its not nice stuff but it does work for me.
I think it is poss to go to the maternity dept. but unless I was dehydrated i dont think theyd do anything tbh.
I'll keep you informed of my progress - thanks again!
Glad to say DH had 'the snip' last month so I am at least relieved that I will never have to go through this again LOL.
Zoe x

[Natalie]

HI Zoe,

I'm sorry that you're still miserable. I hope the GP has something helpful to contribute. I don't think I have much else to add over and above what Mandy and Sarah have already said.

One thing I would say to gently remind you that exertion does set you back HG wise so I agree with your mum - do the minimal amount to keep things ticking over and rest as much as you can otherwise. Can anyone help with looking after your dd for a wee bit - a couple of hours one morning or afternoon to give you a break?

GL at the GP's. Update us when you are able.

Love Natalie, x

[kk]

Hey Zoe, sorry I have not replied to your post sooner! I tend to stick around the 2nd tri folder.

How are you feeling now?

Did you get any help from your doctor? I hope you have found something that can help you.

Take care and hope to hear from you soon.



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