Getting prepared and need help

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Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 09, 2012 1:20 pm

So in ocober I lost my baby after months of dealing with HG. I feel ready to strat trying again but was told by my doctors based on my medical history that the HG will most likely happen again. I was told to be happy with the 2 that I already have. Although I am very happy and blessed in having my lovely daughters, I dont feel done. I also need something positive to focus on after my loss. With my first daughter I had basic morning sickness but I found eating helped. With my second things got pretty bad. After a weekend of being unable to leave the bathroom I ended up in the ER and was given diclectin. I helped a ton but I still got sick around 12 times a day. The last pregnancy my world colapsed arounf me.I l I was unable to keep anything down and the diclectin did nothing. When I finaly got the zofran it barely made a dent. I lost my job, slept in the bathroom, my 6 year old was taking care of my 3 year old until my mil moved in and in the end the worst happened. So here are my questions. With my history is there help in taking the meds from the begining as in before it starts or just after. Will that help?

I am curiouse about alternative therapies and was told marijuana could help. The problem is that it's illegal here (im in edmonton, alberta can) and my husband is a lawyer so getting cought could cause many problems. I am willing to try it as a last resort.

To help me please spam me with any alternative therapy you can think of especialy if it has or is helping you. As you can imagine I'm slightly desperate.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby joy_g » Dec 09, 2012 5:15 pm

if you start zofran pre-emptively (like 5w) it can make a big difference. you won't feel fluffy, for sure, but it can help limit the cyclical vomiting. early intervention, before things get "bad" has really helped a lot of us around here.

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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby DebbieS » Dec 09, 2012 7:19 pm

Like you, I lost a pregnancy during (poorly managed) HG. The next time I took b6 before getting pregnant, then unisom & b6 as soon as I suspected I was pregnant. When I started vomiting I added in zofran, when the HG started setting in added steroids. It helped heaps in delaying the onset of HG, & keeping it controlled.

Before getting pregnant again:
- get a full blood test to check your health (for months after my loss almost nothing about my blood tests were normal (heart, liver, kidneys, blood cells, deficiencies -I had to wait till it returned to normal range)
- organise a good medical team to manage your pregnancy - so that your meds & treatment protocol is organised and agreed upon before getting pregnant
- assume you will need significant care for your children & plan help for this. I moved with my family in with my inlaws for 5 months, my DH also took a day off work a week to help & we increased my DS's preschool hours.

Some basics for an HG pregnancy:
- start meds early to keep the HG controlled - once the HG becomes intractable it's very hard to control again.
- as your symptoms increase you adjust your meds with it - eg increasing your doses, adding in or changing a med (or the form the med is in).
- combination of meds work better
- meds don't work well when dehydrated, so go in early for fluids

Alternative ideas: I saw an acupuncturist & naturopath for months before, and did acupuncture the first few weeks of the pregnancy (until my acupuncturist told me I was too sick to continue). Not convinced on the benefits for HG, but I think it helped my health before hand & helped me get pregnant (previous times it was hard to get pregnant). I also did physio & then joined a gym to regain lost muscle mass. I saw a psychologist because of post traumatic stress & to get mentally strong for next time. I assembled a big folder of treatment ideas, preparation ideas, anything that my help.

Very sorry for your loss.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby Momto2andoneontheway » Dec 09, 2012 7:27 pm

Use preemptive measures for sure. I am in edmonton alberta canada as well and found getting on diclectin and zofran right away before the worst of it came really helped. I have only been in the hospital twice. The second time they put me on diclectin zofran and maxeran. If you need any help message me. Family doctors dont like precribing the beds so you have to see a OB.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 09, 2012 8:26 pm

I don't Have a family Dr and plan to see a midwife. I can't plan to do this beforehand because of the shortage. I have no problem seeing an ob though. Ivsaw one with the last pregnancy but it was really bad by that point. Should I call her office to make an apt? What would I say?
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby Momto2andoneontheway » Dec 09, 2012 8:41 pm

Midwives cant help much with women with HG as they can only prescribe Diclectin. :( Diclectin probably wont be enough to keep you out of the hospital.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 09, 2012 8:59 pm

I'm actually able to see both. Midwife for birth and obgyn for hg and other big issues the midwife can't manage
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby Momto2andoneontheway » Dec 09, 2012 9:02 pm

Yes I am currently seeing both as well.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 09, 2012 9:26 pm

So the Ob will take me in early? What do I say exactly when call?
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby Momto2andoneontheway » Dec 09, 2012 9:30 pm

Tell them you want to get pregnant however with your other pregnancies you experience HG and would like to get a prescription for zofran, maxeran and diclectin to hopefully keep you out of the hospital.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 09, 2012 9:45 pm

Theyes will prescribe that before I even get pregnant
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby Momto2andoneontheway » Dec 09, 2012 9:53 pm

If you have an OB who has treated you before they should.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 09, 2012 10:07 pm

Only saw her once to get zofran. Then I lost the baby
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby Momto2andoneontheway » Dec 09, 2012 10:16 pm

Sorry for your loss. :( Hopefully you get pregnant soon and it turns out well!
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby DebbieS » Dec 10, 2012 1:05 am

You can ask for a preconception appointment because of your history of hyperemesis. You can say you want to start meds pre-emptively to keep the HG controlled & want to arrange what meds to take early on (eg in the gap time between your BFP & your first OB appointment). You can ask for a prescription. You also need to be able to see your OB early on in the pregnancy. I found finding a good medical team very challenging & frustrating experience - a combination of learning how the health system worked where I lived, finding how to get around road blocks, and meeting lots of unhelpful crackering Drs before my final ones. I ended up finding a good GP & a high risk Dr who specialised in maternal medicine (and once I was pregnant the hospital's OB to manage the non HG aspects). While the specialist didn't give me a zofran script beforehand, he did give instructions for my GP to do so once I was pregnant. It is well worth finding someone first - you don't want to fight through it & lose treatment time while having HG.
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby faithlove » Dec 29, 2012 6:01 pm

We just had a loss in October and I was 4 months into the HG pregnancy! I wish I knew what happened. I was taking B6 Unisom around the clock which was helping but I'm pregnant again and now about 8 weeks and a little bit afraid to take it regularly. I started my zofran about two weeks ago. The m/c may have just been because I became severely dehydrated or maybe from something else altogether. But of course I wonder.

I am seriously considering the alternative therapy that was mentioned by original poster. I just don't know what else to do. I have been praying about that option for weeks now.

I feel like with HG, in answer to one of the girls questions, you have to just march into the office, act meek and mild because so many doctors are put off by a person who knows what they're talking about and exactly what they need, but at some point boldly say I have HG and need to begin treatment as soon as I find out I'm pregnant. This isn't my first rodeo! I'll never forget how the Dr made me feel on my first OB appt with our first baby. She was absolutely awful and had no understanding or care and basically said get over it. :( Ever since I go in armed with exactly what I'll say and how I'll present it to make sure they get a clear picture from the beginning. We birth with a midwife so I only deal with a Dr to get a scrip for HG, and I found a Dr recently who will do home IVs, YAY!
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Re: Getting prepared and need help

Postby bicron101 » Dec 29, 2012 7:27 pm

I was seeing a midwife last time and couldn't get in until 10 weeks. My family doctor woyld not prescribe the neccesary meds and I suffered for months with no help. I lost soo much from the illness and with 2 kids I can't allow that to happen again. I saw an obgyn last time just fot treatment of hg just before the pregnancy was lost. The obgyn did agree to see me for a preconception apt for the hg but only because they considered my other pregnancies as hg as well. So far my plan of attack is to see the obgyn to form a plan of attack and see her for everything related to hg and if possible everything else with a midwife. I'm hoping with preemptive treatment I won't get as sick. I do plan to keep marijuana as a back up plan though
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